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Greg Dodge is a professional naturalist as well as a writer, videographer and producer of natural history DVDs. His images have been used in various TV productions, museum displays, and corporate videos. Above all, he has a fascination and passion for all things natural.
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Cooper’s Hawk or What!

May 20th, 2013

Cooper’s Hawk in immature plumage? (5/10/13)

I was very excited when I first spotted the bird in the above photo. I was making the final run of the day, driving from Explore the Wild into Catch the Wind. Glancing over at the swamp between those two areas of the outdoor exhibits I saw the hawk perched about twenty some feet above the floor of the swamp on my left.

Why the excitement over a Cooper’s Hawk? I see them fairly often here at the Museum throughout the year. Cooper’s Hawks have nested here every year since I arrived at the Museum, over five years ago, and probably longer. This year, I’d heard them calling and have seen them flying around the pines on the north side of the campus for several months. They’ve traditionally nested in those pines. When I spotted this particular Cooper’s Hawk I immediately thought, “Alright, they’ve done it again,” thinking this one of their offspring.

This was a reasonable assumption, the bird was in immature plumage, it was sitting in a tree close to the path and didn’t seem at all concerned with me in the Club Car clicking away on the camera, young birds often have to learn what and when to fear something. I thought that this bird must be a youngster fresh off the nest.

After I got back to the office, downloaded the photos and thought about this for a while, I realized, it’s too early for any Cooper’s Hawks to have fledged! Cooper’s Hawks hatched this year won’t be off the nest for a month or more. This bird was either one of the adults nesting back up in the pines or one of the offspring from last year’s nest. This was not a bird hatched this year.

Sure, the bird was in immature plumage, but look at the tips of the feathers, the tail feathers, they’re all worn, ragged. These are not the feathers of a newly hatched or fledged bird. The feathers of a recently fledged bird would be crisp and new.

It takes two or more years for these hawks to acquire full adult plumage which is basically blue-gray on the back and white with reddish barring on the front. This bird was/is still in its first plumage, its first immature plumage. It takes two years for a Cooper’s Hawk to reach sexual maturity. This bird has no blue or gray feathers on its back and no barring at all in the front. If this bird were old enough to nest it would probably have at least a few adult feathers. I see none.

There are no gray or blueish feathers on the back of this bird and the tail looks worn (5/10/13).

It seems to me that this bird is less than one year old and may be one of last year’s brood.

Am I seeing things?

But wait, there’s one thing that I noticed on the bird’s belly, one, maybe two feathers that have reddish barring (barring is horizontal, streaking or stripes are longitudinal). Look at the picture to the right and see if you notice it too. I suppose though, that one little feather (if that’s what it is) does not an adult bird make.

And then it hit me, this wasn’t a Cooper’s Hawk at all! This bird was a Red-shouldered Hawk!!

The tail is much too short to be a Cooper’s Hawk and the barring on the tail is wrong for Cooper’s Hawk. The wings on the bird, if it were a Cooper’s Hawk with a proportionally longer tail, would not extend so far down the tail as it does on the bird in the photo. And, the dark and light colored barring on a Cooper’s Hawk tail are of equal width, the light colored bars are about the same width as the dark bars. The dark bars on the bird in the photo are wider than the light colored bars which is consistent with Red-shouldered Hawk.

The eye color would be more yellow too, if it were a Cooper’s Hawk.

Oh, almost forgot, both species have reddish barring on the breast and belly in adult plumage, so the adult feather that’s coming in on the belly of the bird works with red-shouldered.

I guess what struck me initially about the bird, what made me jump right to Cooper’s Hawk when I first saw it perched there on that branch quietly surveying the swamp below, was its slimness, it looked very lean to me. Long and lean fits more with Cooper’s Hawk, than with Red-shouldered Hawk. And, I was secretly hoping that they (Cooper’s Hawks) were nesting here again and were successful.

So what does all of this matter? It doesn’t matter much at all in the grand scheme, I’m simply trying to work out this little mystery for myself and inviting you to listen in. I’ll stop now. But it goes to show you that things aren’t always what they seem, sometimes you have to take a closer look.

If there’s anyone out there that sees something in the photos, or in my reasoning, that I may have missed please let me know.

Enjoy!

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  1. I came across your blog just now because I was trolling for information concerning sexual maturity in Cooper’s Hawks. Today, May 21, 2013, I observed a Cooper’s Hawk in immature plumage sitting (apparently incubating) on a nest. I spotted the nest and could see there was a bird on it. The tail looked like a Cooper’s Hawk, but I could also see the bird’s head and I could see that the eye was yellow. This confused me quite a bit because I know mature Cooper’s Hawks have red eyes. I had finally decided that the bird must be a Broad-winged Hawk (even though the tail didn’t look right), when the bird flushed, circled, and called “kek-kek-kek-kek-kek”. When it returned to the nest, it perched briefly on the edge and I saw its pale breast and brown vertical streaks down the sides of the breast! This is in Pine County, Minnesota. I am an MN Audubon bird surveyor working on the MN Breeding Bird Atlas. From what I’ve read so far, it seems that Cooper’s Hawks don’t reach sexual maturity until at least two years of age! So, how old was/is my bird and is it really breeding? What do you think? Sincerely, Carol Carter

    Posted by carolwcarter@gmail.com
  2. Ranger Comment :

    I am in no way an expert on the plumage sequence in Cooper’s Hawks. I have however, seen several nests where one of the adults was still in immature plumage. I don’t think it’s that uncommon an occurrence.
    For the record and according to the Bird Banding Lab, a bird hatched the previous year (say April/May 2012) is in its second year of life as of January 1 (2013) and it is referred to as a Second Year bird (SY) even though it may only be 8 or 9 months old on the first of January.
    With that out of the way, I would suggest that the bird you are seeing is a bird that is not quite two years old, an After Second Year bird (ASY), a bird in its third year of life and not quite into its full adult plumage it may be quite brown overall. It will probably molt into its full adult plumage after nesting.
    Does that help any, Carol?
    Is there anyone out there that would like to add something to this?
    Thanks,

    Posted by Greg Dodge
  3. Thanks Greg,
    Yes, it does help. Although it seems confusing to me to refer to a bird that is not yet one year old as a “second year” bird. But I get it! After I posted my comment to your site I read somewhere (on the internet) that “Cooper’s Hawks reach sexual maturity at 2 years of age, but that females sometimes breed as one-year olds” (this is the jist of what I read – not word for word).
    Thanks for your time and attention. Aren’t birds great!?
    Carol Carter

    Posted by carolwcarter@gmail.com
  4. Ranger Comment :

    Yes, I also found a site that states the ages of sexual maturity, for both sexes:
    Age at sexual or reproductive maturity (female):
    1 years (low); avg. 2 years
    Age at sexual or reproductive maturity (male)
    2 years (low); avg. 2 years
    On average, the females apparently mature earlier than the males.
    Thanks,

    Posted by Greg Dodge
  5. Well Done!

    Posted by Jeff Dodge

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by , Ranger
Greg Dodge is a professional naturalist as well as a writer, videographer and producer of natural history DVDs. His images have been used in various TV productions, museum displays, and corporate videos. Above all, he has a fascination and passion for all things natural.
Stop by and say hello Tuesday thru Saturday in Explore the Wild, Catch the Wind, or on the Dino Trail.

The Big White Tree with the Peeling Bark

March 3rd, 2010
am sycamore

American Sycamore

I was recently asked whether or not I knew why the bark on American Sycamore drops off the tree in large thin flakes. Coincidentally, while walking around the Outdoor Exhibits this winter with camera in hand, I’ve been taking photos of various trees to use on this blog in a series of informal, mini-field guides. My intention was to start with some of the more readily identifiable winter trees, trees without leaves. Although winter’s nearly over, this is a good time to squeeze in at least one of those mini-guides.

One of the easiest of trees to identify is the American Sycamore. It’s white upper bark standing off against the winter sky, and other trees in the forest, make it hard to miss and appreciate.

Sycamore is a tree of the bottomlands. Just about any stream or river in our area has it’s share of sycamores growing along its banks, often alongside River Birch. Here at the Museum it grows next to the Wetlands as well as in the swamp between Catch the Wind and Explore the Wild. This handsome tree is often planted along city streets but its roots are near the water.

Many trees have a different type of bark at the base of the trunk than they do at the younger, upper portion of the tree. The sycamore takes this to the extreme.

Take a look at the tree on the right. Scroll up and follow the bark up to the top. It starts out as “typical” gray bark. As you scroll up you’ll notice that the darker bark begins to flake off until finally it becomes nearly all white at the top of the tree.

Towards the middle of the three, starting at about a quarter to a third-way up the tree, the bark often appears “camouflaged” with various gray, brown, and green hues.

Below are some close-ups of the bark.

lower bark

The lower portion of the trunk has rough gray-brown bark.

middle of tree

The bark becomes scaly and flakes off about 1/4 the way up the trunk. It often appears as if camouflaged.

Towards the top of mature trees the bark may be nearly all white.

But, why do sycamores shed their bark? Why does the bark peel off in large thin flakes all season long? I’ve sometimes wondered that myself, but apparently not long or hard enough to actually find out…until now.

Trees have bark to help protect them from losing moisture and drying out, protect themselves from insects (although there are many insects that get past this defense), birds (woodpeckers go in after the insects), and disease. And, all trees have bark specific to the trees themselves. Flowering Dogwood has scaly “alligator” bark. Loblolly Pine has furrowed, segmented bark which bares a resemblance to the loblollies on a dried lake bed. Shagbark Hickory has a shaggy appearance with big, gray pieces of bark sticking out from the trunk. Sycamore has bark that peels off and becomes white near the upper portion of the tree.

What evolutionary advantage is it for a tree to shed it’s bark the way sycamores do? Everything from the tree’s favored habitat to photosynthesis has been suggested by people who should know, people who study trees. Most of the theories that I’ve read seem like sound reasons for this bark shedding habit. Apparently though, there is no definitive answer to the question of why this tree looks and behaves the way it does.

Instead of me quoting or paraphrasing the various suggested answers to this question, from another source, it may be easier for you to read them yourself. The linked article is from the Daily Plant out of NYC, NY and tries to answer the question of why sycamore sheds its bark through an interview with Dr. Marc Abrams, Professor of Forest Ecology at Penn State University.

Oh yeah, back to the identification of the tree. If the bark doesn’t nail down the ID of this tree for you, perhaps the many fruit balls that typically dangle from the branches will do it.

Sycamore has fruit balls on its branches all winter.

The fruit hang from the tree throughout the winter, are about an inch to an inch and a quarter in diameter and, unlike the spiky seed balls of Sweetgum, are soft to the touch.

On your next walk through Explore the Wild stop at the platform midway down the boardwalk. If you stand facing the Animal Footprints Exhibit and look about 40 degrees or so to your left you’ll see an excellent example of an American Sycamore with all of the features described above. Another is about the same amount of degrees to your right. If you look about 90 degrees to your right you’ll see a slim, straight sycamore which is nearly all green, all the way to the crown. Why is this sycamore green and not white? That one will have to wait for another day, maybe.

Enjoy your walk.

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  1. We have a tree like that in our yard and we never knew what kind of a tree it was. Know we know…

    Posted by Joseph Caswell
  2. Thanks for the post!! Very informative, if not totally conclusive. I was looking at the sycamores again yesterday and noticed that, along with their fruit balls, there were what looked like some little balls of fluff hanging from the branches. I guess the seeds are about ready to disperse? Has the warmer weather awakened them?

    Posted by Leslie A
  3. Ranger Comment :

    That’s right, the seeds are ready to disperse. The balls break apart and the seeds are cast to the wind. In fact, with the steady SW winds today (Wednesday, 3/10) I saw many of the seeds floating by me like little paratroopers as I stood on the boardwalk and elsewhere in Explore the Wild and Catch the Wind.

    Posted by Greg Dodge, Ranger
  4. We have dozens of these trees in my neighborhood, and I couldn’t figure out if they were diseased or what was the reason for them shedding their bark. I couldn’t identify them either except that they were white where the bark was gone. Thanks for clearing up this mystery for me.

    Posted by Elizabeth Westra
  5. Ranger Comment :

    My pleasure, Elizabeth.
    Although these trees are associated with wet areas they have been planted extensively along streets and avenues across the country. How many towns and cities have a Sycamore Avenue, Lane, or Street?
    Thanks,

    Posted by Greg Dodge
  6. Thanks for the info–tried several sites to identify but mostly leaf ID’S. I’m a “recycler” of trees, i.e., in my fireplace or neighbors with woodstoves and the ash goes to my compost. Have several downed A.S. in my area and wanted to know if hardwood before I “light up?” How hard is A.S.??

    Posted by Jim McDole
  7. Ranger Comment :

    I’ve never burned sycamore but a quick search revealed that it is “OK” to burn, not the best but it will produce a moderate amount of heat. Make sure that you season it, let it dry out. I would think that if you’re cutting it now it probably won’t be ready before next winter.
    Good luck,

    Posted by Greg Dodge
  8. Thanks for the info!! Your site’s the best.

    Posted by Jim McDole
  9. I never thought about the trunk of a large, mature sycamore continuing to grow when I had a tree house built around mine in 2008. Now the tree has filled the gap in the flooring and has popped some of the smaller boards loose. Is there any chance that other areas will grow around the framing, like in the roof, or is my tree house doomed?

    Posted by Lynette Gaines
  10. Ranger Comment :

    Not being able to see your tree house I can’t tell what may happen to it, but yeah, the tree will continue to grow as long as it’s alive. There is more of a height limit than there is a girth limit, the trunk keeps getting wider, hence the rings inside the trunk. There’s a tree near Waynesville, NC that is “132 feet tall and 268 inches wide” (probably means 268 inches in circumference), which is about 22.3 feet in circumference. There’s a stump of a dead sycamore in Indiana that was/is 57 feet in circumference when a storm split the trunk and knocked it over.
    Good luck!

    Posted by Greg Dodge

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Greg Dodge is a professional naturalist as well as a writer, videographer and producer of natural history DVDs. His images have been used in various TV productions, museum displays, and corporate videos. Above all, he has a fascination and passion for all things natural.
Stop by and say hello Tuesday thru Saturday in Explore the Wild, Catch the Wind, or on the Dino Trail.

Bluebird Update 5.21.13

May 22nd, 2013

No takers yet in the Cow Pasture nest (5/21/13).

We have three empty nests and three occupied nests. The Cow Pasture nest which was cleaned and readied last week for new occupants is still waiting for someone to move in.

This nest has so far fledged four bluebirds. I expect there will be at least one more brood from this nest box.

The bluebirds who have built a nest atop the old chickadee nest next to the Bungee Jump have laid four eggs in the nest. This nest has so far seen five chickadees hatch and fledge. It’s now up to the bluebirds to try and see their young through to fledging.

Four eggs in this bluebird nest at the Bungee Jump (5/21/13).

Three of the chickadee eggs in the nest behind the Sail Boat Pond have hatched. We’ll have to wait to see if the fourth egg is fertile. It looks as though the birds that have hatched had just hatched so that fourth egg may yet break open to reveal another chickadee.

Three tiny chickadees and one egg in the nest behind the Sail Boat Pond (5/21/13).

Last week the nest box in the Amphimeadow contained two bluebird eggs. It now has five.

An increase of three from last week for the nest in the Amphimeadow (5/21/13).

The five chickadee nestlings that had occupied the nest box next to the Picnic Dome can now be referred to as chickadee fledglings, they have flown the coop.

The five nestlings that lived here are now free flying birds (5/21/13).

Last week, through the comment column, Judy Overby asked me what the material, the white material, inside the chickadee’s nest box was. I told her that I’d pick a sample the next time I went into the box. I did. The material is synthetic. It looks to be pillow or cushion stuffing.

Chickadees use many different fibers to top off their nests from feathers to fur to synthetic fibers. I once saw a chickadee repeatedly work at shredding an old tarp which had washed up along a river. The tarp was already fairly shredded but the chickadee worked tirelessly at getting the fibers out of the tarp and incorporated into its nest.

Judy also mentioned that the white stuff in the nest (see photo above), “…looks very much like the white, fluffy stuff we are finding all around our yard.” I haven’t seen what Judy has in her yard but right now in our Wetland at the Museum, Black Willows are putting out seed, airborne seeds. Perhaps this is what Judy is seeing in her yard.

Willow seed ready to be carried off by the wind.

Willow seeds “snowing” down in Explore the Wild. Seed dispersal in action.

An empty nest box at the Butterfly House (5/21/13).

Back to the nests. Looking much like the nest box at the Cow Pasture, the Butterfly House nest box is still empty. But let’s not rush it, the birds that occupied this box fledged only a week or so ago, the parents need time to recuperate before starting anew.

So, here’s the run down of the current nest box activity. The Cow Pasture nest is empty, waiting for a new nest to begin. The nest next to the Bungee Jump contains four bluebird eggs. There are three new chickadee hatchlings and one unhatched egg in the nest box behind the Sail Boat Pond. The Amphimeadow nest has five bluebird eggs within. There is currently no nest in the box next to the Picnic Dome. And, the Butterfly House nest is empty.

We currently have three empty nests and three occupied nests. Two nests are occupied by bluebirds with 9 eggs, four in one and five in the other. One nest box houses a chickadee family with three chicks and one unhatched egg.

See you next week!

 

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by , Ranger
Greg Dodge is a professional naturalist as well as a writer, videographer and producer of natural history DVDs. His images have been used in various TV productions, museum displays, and corporate videos. Above all, he has a fascination and passion for all things natural.
Stop by and say hello Tuesday thru Saturday in Explore the Wild, Catch the Wind, or on the Dino Trail.

Peregrine Falcon Nest Cam

May 16th, 2013

Anyone interested in seeing a live view of a Peregrine Falcon’s nest click the link below:

http://www.childressklein.com/falcon1.aspx

The nest is on a building in Chartlotte, NC and the chicks have just hatched. I just viewed the site, the adult was sitting on top of the chicks, so be patient if you want to see them. The next few days/weeks should be interesting to see what the parents bring to the nestlings. I suspect Charlotte’s pigeon population will decrease a bit.

Have fun.

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Greg Dodge is a professional naturalist as well as a writer, videographer and producer of natural history DVDs. His images have been used in various TV productions, museum displays, and corporate videos. Above all, he has a fascination and passion for all things natural.
Stop by and say hello Tuesday thru Saturday in Explore the Wild, Catch the Wind, or on the Dino Trail.

The Mysterious Red Tubular Growth

June 3rd, 2010

The voice on the radio (Animal Department Director, Sherry Samuels) said that there was a cluster of strange, red, tube-like fungi growing out of the ground next to the Lemur House and wondered if I knew what it was.

stinkhorn

One of the many strange growths growing in the leaf litter next to the the Lemur House (approx. 4" tall).

I said that I didn’t know what it was but would stop by and have a look at them later.

It was a few days before I finally made it to the site and, after having a look at the horn-shaped growths and agreeing that they were obviously some sort of fungus, I still didn’t know exactly what they were.

Some of them were “wilted” and laying on the ground while others appeared fresh, if fungus can be termed as being fresh.

stinkhorn

Some of the growths were obviously gone by while others appeared to be new growth.

I happen to have an identification guide to mushrooms and after a quick browse through the many photos in the book I was able to come up with a match, Elegant Stinkhorn (Mutinus elegans).

The visible “horns” of this stinkhorn are the spore bearing stems. Just below the leaf litter are “eggs” from which the stems “hatch.”

stinkhorn

An egg (fruit body) on the left and a fully emerged horn (stem).

stinkhorn egg

A stem breaking out of its egg.

The eggs, according to my mushroom guide’s author, are edible, “…but not recommended.” I don’t think that I’ll be tempted to try them regardless.

Case closed.

There’s nothing like a good mystery too start off the week!

Six days after the case of the stinkhorns, I came across a more typical member of that strange group of organisms (not animal, not plant) growing under a dogwood near the entrance to the Dinosaur Trail.

parasol mushroom

This tall, lean mushroom (approx. 12" tall) was growing under a small Flowering Dogwood next to the Parasaurolophus on the Dinosaur Trail.

I’m not certain about the identity of this mushroom, but think that it’s a Parasol Mushroom (Lepiota procera). The height, scaling on the cap, and season (June-October) as well as other features seem right for the species, but I’m not positive. My guide says that in regard to the identity of Parasol Mushrooms ”smell is important and should be noted” but it doesn’t say exactly what that smell should be, only that it’s “slight, not distinctive.” I guess you have to be a connoisseur of mushrooms to understand what that means.

parasol mushroom

The following day the parasol opened. The small ring below the cap, or parasol, is supposed to be movable up and down the stem on this species. I didn't learn that until after the fact and didn't try to move it (it looks like it could slide up and down the stem).

I’m not recommending this or any other mushroom be consumed, but according to my guide, Parasol Mushrooms are rated as “excellent” for edibility with a “sweet” in the taste category. Again, I’m not going to eat one of these mushrooms and don’t recommend that you do either, just quoting my guide.

The guide that I used for the identifications of the stinkhorn and parasol (if that’s what it is) is Mushrooms of North America, by Roger Phillips. It’s a large format book and not really suited for work in the field (it won’t fit into your pocket), but it has over a thousand photos and extensive descriptions of the many mushrooms included within its pages.

Happy hunting.

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  1. How fascinating! And elegant!

    Posted by Erin Brown
  2. Thanks for figuring this out for me and sharing it with everyone Greg.

    Posted by Sherry
  3. Ranger Comment :

    Thanks Erin.
    It is indeed fascinating…all of the little mysteries of nature that are out there waiting to be discovered.

    Posted by Greg Dodge, Ranger
  4. Ranger Comment :

    You’re welcome, Sherry. Thanks for pointing them out to me!

    Posted by Greg Dodge, Ranger
  5. Eureka! I just discovered one of these today along our driveway. Strangely, it’s not a very moist environment, barring the fact that we’ve had a really wet spring. Our stinkhorn was brilliant orange, just like a carrot and there were several bottle flies crawling on it. I snapped a couple photos before it was ultimately destroyed by some construction activity. Thanks so much! I searched “strange tubular fungus” and here you were!!

    Posted by Keri
  6. Ranger Comment :

    Good, glad you were able to figure it out.
    One of our Rangers (Erin) here at the Museum found one last week as well. There was one above ground and another about to “hatch,” but unfortunately, I think it was trampled on. It was right next to one of the trails here with heavy traffic.
    Have a good one,

    Posted by Greg Dodge
  7. I also want to thank you. I found a group of four of these mushrooms in my front yard flower bed and was mustified! I Googled tubulat mushroom and “whaaLaa!” your photos and explanations came up. Must also mention that there is a very heavy mucklike smell that is almost sickening to these mushrooms. Maybe that is where they got their name:Stinkhorn. Dennis Dotson

    Posted by Dennis Dotson
  8. Ranger Comment :

    Thanks for the comments Dennis.
    And yes, the smell is the reason for the stinkhorn part of its name.

    Posted by Greg Dodge
  9. Thank you!! I found a stinkhorn in my back yard and was totally mystified… my son found your blog or I would still be wondering.

    Posted by Gayla Rihaly
  10. Ranger Comment :

    Good, good, glad you found us.
    Thanks,

    Posted by Greg Dodge
  11. I just found a couple of their “eggs” behind the duck yard. They’ve been sitting on my desk the last couple of days waiting for you to come back to work. It started to “hatch” this morning. I remembered you did a post about odd looking smelly red fungus and now I don’t need to save the juicy smelly red things for you to ID. Thanks Greg!

    Posted by Sarah
  12. Ranger Comment :

    Always a pleasure.
    Thanks,

    Posted by Greg Dodge
  13. is the Tubular Red Fungas toxic to dogs if they come in contact wioth it or eat one? How do I get ried of them?

    Posted by cynthia
  14. Ranger Comment :

    I could find no reference stating that this fungus is toxic to dogs. In fact, most references say that it is not toxic and is of little concern to dog owners who worry that their dog will eat the stinkhorns and become ill.
    The fungus with wither, dry up and disappear on its own. It you want to hurry the process and dig it up, go ahead, make sure you get the “eggs” beneath the surface.
    Good luck!!

    Posted by Greg Dodge
  15. I RECENTLY SAW THE “STINK HORN” GROWING IN A RATHER SUNNY PLACE GLAD SOME ONE HAS GIVEN IT A NAME. FEW PEOPLE JUST LAUGHED WHEN i TRIED TO DESCRIBE IT. MINE APPEARED TO BE WET AND IT WAS A DRY AREA. ALSO HAVE LOTS OF EARTH STAR MUSHROOMS around .

    Posted by CAROLYN JONES
  16. Ranger Comment :

    Good, I’m glad you were able to figure out the identity of the stinkhorn.
    They will laugh no more! Well, maybe.
    Thanks,

    Posted by Greg Dodge

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